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male
Joined on 08 Март 2009
Total posts: 37

Re: PETITION for Freedom to Dance

16 Март 2009 г. 18:36

Yes I want everyone to forget history, and who did what.

Only by forgiving and by getting beyond the past peace can develop.

Both must become winners, otherwise this battle will take years, and years without a better situation for the dancers.

 

 
goldfinger
Joined on 13 Март 2009
Total posts: 16

Re: PETITION for Freedom to Dance

16 Март 2009 г. 19:02

minime

Maybe people are unaware, maybe the petition is not reaching far enough, may be the petition was not well thought out.  Lets wait and see. 

There are also errors starting to appear. 

 Check your registrations, be responsible. That is the right thing to do.

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Minime :

 Its all right. 

My registration also had a mistake.   If anyone wants to correct a mistake, do what I have done, go to the source and request the needed correction.

The American flag can be easily switched for a Maple Leaf if so desired, there are many Maple Leafs already, obviously they did something right ( providing they are from Canada and not from India )

I for one, appreciate  a proud Canadian  defending own flag and  while asking more Canadians to register, it is a worthwhile cause - I am told.

Personally, I see not a hint of personal attack against the name Millete,  but I definitely see an unprovoked  assault and a definite hint of insult at  minime for mentioning possible mistakes made in registrations,  something which Sambatogo agreed with  when he confirme the mistake providing own examples.  

Wouldn't  the petition credibility only benefit from more accuratcy, correct   information and corrected errors.  Maybe  thank yous  should be in order rather then the opposite. 

 To this reader the example was about  assigning incorrect flag not about  the mentioned registrant.   

Are such   insults necessary ?  The  error can be easily corrected,  the Maple Leaf can be assigned to the right registrant.  Why such a harsh  overeaction ?

 
jazz
Joined on 07 Април 2005
Total posts: 444

Re: PETITION for Freedom to Dance

16 Март 2009 г. 19:54

sambatogo

Minime,

You are pathetic!

 ......Anthony Hurley is listed under Australia yet he is English. But lives in Australia so it comes in as Australian. there would be many more like this. This is a pathetic attempt to discredit  an Individual Mr. Millette.....

...many Canadians listed now. Quite infested with Canadian names infact!

....reflect the sad and shameful nature that occures in Canadian Dancesport in CADA and CDF. Shame on you!!

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 @Sambatogo

Quite infested with Canadian names in fact!    

This speaks volumes Sambatogo.  

Infested ?  You mean like with rats and roaches ?    You  dare say to others: "shame on you" ?

 

@minime

Do you suppose Anthony Hurley will log on and  blast Sambatogo for mentioning his name,   while you minime have just  copied and pasted  a section from some  petition ?

Would Mr. Hurley be calling  Sambatogo pathetic for using  his name as an example of an error regarding mislabeling ( flag- wise) of the country's origin  ?   Isn't Sambatogo doing  exactly what you have done, which he found so unacceptable  ?

Would Mr. Hurley  refer to Canadian registrants as if an undesired  "infestation" ? 

 Why is Sombatogo  repeatedly using the words "shameful and sad"   with CADA and CDF  acronyms ? 

Since minime and Jazz and the infamous 40 others are often placed in the same bag,  for that reason alone Jazz  does not  require your response. 
minime
Joined on 08 Януари 2009
Total posts: 84

Re: PETITION for Freedom to Dance

16 Март 2009 г. 23:49

 Minime is aware of the response  and  Sambatogo's  insult  but  thought at firsts it was unworthy a response.

 Instead of freaking out  Sambatogo should realize that at no point has Minime, at any time, discussed and indicate any wrong doing of  Mr. Millet as Sambatogo alleged.      Minime,  until this day,  considers especially Mr. Millet to be a gentleman,   a reputable member of CDDCS, a person of significance,  character and a distinction, and of course a Canadian representative,  who  belongs under the flag with  Maple Leaf , and not  Stars and Stripes.

All Sambatogo needed to say,  if he needed to comment at all, was that USA flag was inserted due to some technicality- well he did, but than added some completely unnecessary and unfounded and ugly comments.

Minime could ask Sambatogo,  who is not at all acting  as a person of the above mentioned distinction,  to  prove his allegations and  provide a single proof  that  Minime mentioned  name of  Mr. Allain Millet in a bad way,  in fact,  challenges  Sambatogo to point a single post made by Minime where name A. Millet was mentioned.

Caution: Minime would not accept if Sambatogo digs out some unkind statement made by  'who-knows-who'   if such has ever been made,  and would claim 'who-knows-who'  is  minime -  so that we understand each other. 

Mimime also find Sambatogo's comment regarding  the Canadian infestation of the Freedom to Dance registry  quite offensive,  but having been on the receiving end of Sambatogo's insults, not at all surprised.

Minime recalls threads called    "Shame on Canada",  and is disappointed that some people would have such a low opinion of Canada and the Canadians,  and be so vindictive and resort to  use of such a language.

However Minime respects the freedom of expression and  accept that people  differ.  It does not make such a behaviour  right.  

Sorry, this is about The Petition for Freedom of Dance, Minime pointed out some errors were taking place,  Sambatogo gave example and confirm the same observation, others commented and suggested a corrective action, suppose with over 850  registrants  on board  the support is growing, again Minime - feeling patriotic misses many more Canadian flags. Please assure your registrations are accurate  for the credibility sake.

Thanks for your support.

 

 

 
sambatogo
Joined on 29 Август 2007
Total posts: 280

Re: PETITION for Freedom to Dance

17 Март 2009 г. 01:14

To Male,

You really should give the very many experienced Pros at the WDC more credit. Believe when we say the WDC has tried everything, and to no avail with the IDSF. To just forget is not possible if the IDSF declares itself the only official body in existance. And wishes to eliminate the the WDC. 

If you don`t believe it ask the IDSF to give up using only IDSF judges and not to recognise the IPDSC for the sake of harmony, and see how far you get? Then this is your answer. 

What you ask will not be considered by IDSF. You are obviously through no fault of your own inexperienced in such matters, if you even think such a simplistic answer is possible to the problem.   

To Jazz and Minnime,

Maybe you are the same person? But you know that your sole intention was to discredit the Canadian WDC representative for Canada in the CDDSC, Mr. Millette.

That is the only reason why you singled him out by name, there is no doubt. As you have not stated any OTHER REASON? It is pathetic that you pretend otherwise. If it is as you say "indicate any wrong doing of Mr. Millette" then why bring up the issue at all? What purpose does that serve. the answer is none! For those new to the forum, in the past  Mr. Millette`s personal  telephone numbers and address was also suplied for the purposes to cause him harm in the last attack on this forum! So please do not preach about ethics and decent behavour when your own standards are so low!

There are many others that have no flag by their name or have the wrong flag against their names for whatever reason that is unimportant. You just try to make an issue over nothing other than to discredit Mr. Millette. This is the simple fact.

Sambatogo.
richards
Joined on 08 Януари 2009
Total posts: 15

Re: PETITION for Freedom to Dance

17 Март 2009 г. 02:20

Come on now...this is off the topic again...

Sambatogo, it is you who keeps mentioning the name constantly, are you saying Jazz or minime flagged the phone number and address ?  Is this guy so important ? 

If someone discusses an organization  they are not discrediting anyone specific. If  discussing  WDC what makes you think they criticize by you mentioned  Mr. Millette ?

Hasn't  minime already  said what he/she thought and how highly regarded the person ?

Why are you so sensitive and protective of this person  ,  this is so weird ?   Singling out  by not even saying but  copying  a section from a petition which is being discussed here pointing out  a wrong flag was assigned, trying to fix errors ?  What's wrong with it ?  

It is too bad for this  petition has so  many mistake, mistakes and errors  Sambatogo observed himself.  . Have them fixed and stop complaining.

Allow me to comment on   infestation   
richards
Joined on 08 Януари 2009
Total posts: 15

Re: problems with Internet

17 Март 2009 г. 02:23

 "  Minime,  until this day,  considers especially Mr. Millet to be a gentleman,   a reputable member of CDDCS, a person of significance,  character and a distinction, and of course a Canadian representative,  who  belongs under the flag with  Maple Leaf , and not  Stars and Stripes."

I wish someone could insult and discredit Richards with such words of praise and respect.
richards
Joined on 08 Януари 2009
Total posts: 15

Re: PETITION for Freedom to Dance

17 Март 2009 г. 02:30

Web definitions for infestation
the state of being invaded or overrun by parasites

Infested by Canadians ?
sambatogo
Joined on 29 Август 2007
Total posts: 280

Re: PETITION for Freedom to Dance

17 Март 2009 г. 04:19

Richards,

You are then also are contributing to being off the topic!

But it is minime who took us there by mentioning Mr. Millette in the first place. However, Sambatogo is not starting a new thread in the defence of Mr. Millette when an injustice has been done against him.

In no place can Sambatogo find that Minime has ever considered Mr. Millette a gentalemen or a person to respect. Can you show where this is so? Even though he would fully deserve being so.

And actually, the Freedom to Dance Petition is being "Infested" or  invaded by Canadians somewhat! Good on them!! And many other countries too for that matter. {You want to pick on the choice of language now? Rather off the topic is it not?}

And YES as a matter of fact, Mr. Millette is a rather very important person in the CDDSC and WDC! 

But you are right the topic IS most important. The Freedom To Dance Petition. Have you put your name to it yet Richards? Somehow Sambatogo guesses not????

Sambatogo. 

 
quicktime2
Joined on 31 Август 2007
Total posts: 181

Re: PETITION for Freedom to Dance

17 Март 2009 г. 07:08

 

To Jazz and minime

 

In the last little while I have asked Jazz and minime if they could stay on topic, which is important, and not always try to inject some propaganda about Canada and the CDF – always done as if she were just adding to the discussion.

 

I believe Goldfinger and Sambatogo were right. Consider this:

 

Minime wrote with respect to the Petition-

"There are also errors beginning to appear. Taken in random order:  the supporter #215 alain millette …..is hardly an American."

 

 Goldfinger is right. There were plenty of other ways to point out there are errors. Was it really random that Mr. Millette's name was chosen? I think not.

 

Millette's name was brought into the conversation so that the following line could be included.

 "hasn't the majority of Canadian dancers allegedly already left the destructive CADA?"

 

This line has absolutely nothing to do with errors in the petition – no matter how you try to disguise its inclusion. It is propaganda pure and simple and because it is directed at one person it is malicious.

 

I'm sure I am not the only one who finds your continued obsession with trying to convince everyone your view of Canada is correct, quite tiresome. We can make up our own minds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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